How to Master Local Digital Marketing and Maximize Google Business Profiles with Marilyn Jenkins

Ever feel like your business is invisible online, even though you offer top-notch products or services? You’re not alone. So many business owners I talk to are missing out on leads simply because they’re overlooking one of the most powerful, free tools available: Google Business Profile. If your phone isn’t ringing like it used to, or foot traffic has slowed down, it’s time to ask yourself—is my GBP doing its job?

In this episode, I sit down with Marilyn Jenkins, a digital marketing veteran who’s helped her clients increase phone calls by 40% in just two months, all by making small, strategic updates to their profiles. We dive into the easy, actionable steps you can take to boost your visibility, drive more traffic, and turn your GBP into a lead-generating machine. And the best part? It doesn’t take hours of work.

If you’re ready to stop missing out on customers and start dominating local search, this conversation is for you. Let’s get your business seen, starting today! Tune in—you won’t want to miss it.

Connect with Marilyn Jenkins:
Get Marilyn Jenkins’ Google Business Profile Training Guide at maximizeyourGBP.com, or book a marketing consultation at lawmarketingzone.com. Stay connected with her expert insights on LinkedIn!

Books Mentioned:

• The Breakthrough Code by Tom McCarthy
• How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
• The Google Business Profile Training Guide by Marilyn Jenkins

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introducing Marilyn Jenkins
• 9:00 The power of reviews and online reputation management
• 10:54 The importance of Google Business Profiles for local businesses
• 12:19 Maximizing the potential of Google Business Profiles
• 18:31 The significance of consistency and mindset in achieving success

Transcript

Dr. William Attaway: 0:00

I'm so excited today to have Marilyn Jenkins on the podcast. Marilyn is a digital marketing veteran with over 16 years of experience. She's the founder of MJ Media Group LLC and Law Marketing Zone. Her expertise lies in leveraging paid advertising and SEO, particularly for optimizing Google business profiles, to propel business growth. Marilyn has a proven track record of success, having helped numerous businesses achieve significant growth through her strategic marketing programs. Many of her clients have surpassed the seven-figure mark in sales, with some experiencing impressive returns on investment as high as facts. That is not a typo. Her recently published book, the Google Business Profile Training Guide, delves into the intricacies of local search domination by maximizing Google business profiles. Her comprehensive guide empowers businesses to take control of their online presence and attract more qualified customers. Marilyn, I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for being on the show.

Marilyn Jenkins: 1:10

Absolutely. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

Intro / Outro: 1:15

Welcome to Catalytic Leadership, the podcast designed to help leaders intentionally grow and thrive. Here is your host author and leadership and executive coach, dr William Attaway.

Dr. William Attaway: 1:32

I would love for you to share a little bit of your story with our listeners, Marilyn, particularly around your journey and your development as a leader. How did you get started?

Marilyn Jenkins: 1:42

I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit since I was a little kid. It was so funny. My grandmother had a tree this fruit that was growing in her yard and I used to take it to school and sell it in the third grade. I mean, it was just silly.

Dr. William Attaway: 1:56

but no one else had a tree in their yard, right.

Marilyn Jenkins: 2:02

So I mean, it was just hilarious. But I kind of always felt like I wanted to work for myself and I was very lucky in my early 20s to get an opportunity working outside sales. So I worked independently. Once a month I saw my boss. We either went to work or went and played golf. It was really great and you know, he kind of his philosophy was if your golf game gets better and your sales go down, I have a problem. So his leadership style was completely different and but he was always there for us. So I kind of saw that and really liked that type of leadership. You know, I'm I don't like to micromanage, I like to hire people that are, as we say, a players, you know, that have the drive to get it done, and so that's kind of that.

Marilyn Jenkins: 2:50

I was in digital marketing way before eBooks in the early 90s, working with an eBook. As an eBook company. I had a company called CyberRead and did publishing as well and was instrumental in introducing Amazon with the company that actually built the backbone of what they're doing. So it was it's an interesting path. And then so, um, I started building websites for my friends and local businesses and things just kind of took off from there. You know they go okay, now I have a website, now what you know, how can I get people to it? So it all, the all encompassing digital marketing, started there. So everything I do for my clients I've actually done for myself and my own website and in bringing in people and it's it's like a I think, of leadership also as coaching, so you're coaching your clients as well as your, your team. So that's a meandering around to here we are and I think you know, I think, think, like so many great leaders that I talk to, it's not a straight line.

Dr. William Attaway: 3:50

My journey certainly wasn't. I mean, it does kind of take unexpected twists and turns, but there's no such thing as a wasted experience. A lot of people listening may be like oh yeah, but mine's a local business. Do I really need online marketing? Is that really a thing? But mine's a local business, do I really need online marketing? Is that really a thing Because I'm a local?

Marilyn Jenkins: 4:12

business. What do you say when you hear somebody say that I asked you this question? What do you do when you're a consumer, if you're walking down a new city or walking in your city and you're looking, hey, is that Italian restaurant open today, or is the pet food store open today? What are you going to do? You're going to Google it, right? You look at your phone and the pretty part in the middle are the maps All the three people in the maps. That's your Google business profile. Do you want to be there when someone's looking for your business? Your Google business profile is exactly that. It's a free service that Google has put out there and all you have to do is keep updating it, keep telling them who you want, and you'll get in the map pack and you'll be found and you'll get those searches. So, yeah, if you're local.

Dr. William Attaway: 4:55

If you want business, you want to have your Google business profile set up. Is the Google business profile that?

Marilyn Jenkins: 4:57

important. Yes, how important was the yellow pages back in the day well, right, everybody had one everybody had one, even if you used it to sit your little kid on. But that's right. I remember I spent some time sitting on a yellow pages.

Marilyn Jenkins: 5:14

Yeah, I used mine to prop my monitor up higher. I mean it's just one of those things. But I mean, think about how important the yellow page was to a business, right, and every little thing, whether it was bold or display or a big you know, everything was super expensive. So if you think about that being a database and Google like bringing it all in and gave everybody a listing that cost them nothing, and then if you're a new business you can get one, it costs you nothing. I keep saying it's free. You just you know you need to be better than your competition in making sure it's updated.

Dr. William Attaway: 5:49

You do keep saying it's free and that seems a little hard to believe. I mean because, as a business owner myself, there's very little that's free for businesses to help them grow and thrive. And a lot of people don't think about the Google Business Profile.

Marilyn Jenkins: 6:00

They think about Google my Business which the Google Business Profile is like the of. People don't think about the Google business profile, they think about Google, my business, which the Google business profile is like, the I don't know eight iteration of Google, places right.

Marilyn Jenkins: 6:11

Yes, and we all people think Google, my business, is just a place to store reviews. Well, every iteration of it you get more features. So with the Google business profile, you have so many more features and a management portal and an insights to show you what people are actually clicking on and what they're doing with it. So I mean it's, it's, when you think about the largest search engine in the world, the reason they the largest is user experience. So if you help them, give them, give their users, a good user experience, they're going to reward you. So you are helping them continue their reign of the number one search engine in the world.

Dr. William Attaway: 6:53

You know, it seems so simple right, this free tool, and all you have to do is go sign up for it. Is it more complicated than that? Are there other aspects of this that business owners need to be mindful of as they're, as they're stepping into what first, many of them may be uncharted waters?

Marilyn Jenkins: 7:09

Well, the biggest thing is it's like if you had, say, say, a home services company and you wanted to work in three different towns and you had aunt Emma over here and uncle George over here, and so at one point you set up three Google my business, one in their house, and so now you have three, so maybe you have reviews on all three. Well, now you, that's a problem because you don't have a physical address over there, right.

Marilyn Jenkins: 7:35

So it comes to combining those and then correcting it. And in some instances, if you years ago set it up and did nothing with it, is your business name still correct and it needs to be the legal business name, not using like city and keywords. So like Bob's Plumbing Orlando, florida, you know that's not his business name, unless, of course, it actually is. So I mean the important part is, keep it simple. It's your legal business name, your address and your phone number. If you work out of your home and you don't want to put your address out there, you're going to get less relevancy. But if you even just rent a small little place that's maybe used for storage, you'll have a business address and you know. Start updating it.

Marilyn Jenkins: 8:25

Choose your category. There used to be three categories you could choose from. I believe there's now seven. So prioritize your categories. Choose as many that are relevant for you and just start adding little things to it. Reply to every review. Put photos. Videos list your products and services with photos and keywords in the descriptions. Videos list your products and services with photos and keywords in the descriptions. So I mean it sounds complicated but they've made the backend, the interface, so incredibly simple it takes. I tell my clients it takes you 10 minutes a week to update something.

Dr. William Attaway: 8:58

Does it make a difference, like, is this really going to drive traffic to a business's online presence to? Is it going to result in leads? Because I think a lot of business owners are like I. Get it, we need to make this right, we need to do it, but is this a front burner thing? Is this an income producing activity?

Marilyn Jenkins: 9:17

Yes, yes, I have an attorney in Florida that contacted me and she said I don't know what happened. My phone's just stopped ringing, like two weeks ago. I'm like what do you mean? She goes it's just I'm just not getting the calls I was getting. Like, okay, let's have a look. Got to looking, there was an update. She doesn't recall doing so. We made the updates and we fixed her Google business profile. By the next week her phones were ringing. In 60 days she had 42% more phone calls. So yeah, I mean another example, if you don't mind. A second story is a pet food supply store Always had really good walk-in traffic every day, pretty consistent. All of a sudden they started getting no traffic on Tuesdays very little drip drop traffic, but nothing like normal. Got to checking, someone updated their hours and said they were closed on Tuesday. So having your hours updated on your Google business profile drives traffic. Again, when you're a consumer, you're looking at the maps, it'll say closed. Are you indeed closed or are you open? And it's hugely important around holiday times as well.

Dr. William Attaway: 10:23

That's so good. You talked about the map pack earlier, how a business is going to show up and some businesses are going to rank higher in that. Is there a way to get your business to bump up a little bit, maybe even, dare I say, toward the top of the search results?

Marilyn Jenkins: 10:41

Yeah, I mean it used to have seven and now they whittled that down to three and in some locations. If you're in a location it's not nationwide where they'll allow ads, there could be a fourth person in there, but it's designated an ad, okay.

Dr. William Attaway: 10:54

Got it.

Marilyn Jenkins: 10:54

Yeah, by doing the things Google wants. Google wants to know more about your business. They want engagement. They want to know that you're updating stuff and everything you update you're telling them a better way of giving you traffic right.

Marilyn Jenkins: 11:10

So, keeping your website updated, make sure that you've got the directions correct to get to you, but by doing all of these things. And then, of course, what we do in addition is backlinks, so that's what we used to call them, we call them citations now, and we get you listed in all these directories, so that helps. So the more links to your website and to your Google business profile, the more relevant Google sees you. So you will go and begin climbing. It's not like before, where the ones with the highest number of reviews or star ratings will be on top. There are many instances where the number one person has less reviews than the number two or number three. And it comes down to how complete are you, how often are you updating it, and you know, especially if your biggest competitor is a corporate client, maybe like a corporate branch competitor is a corporate client, maybe like a corporate branch, you can beat them because the corporate's not going to keep updating. It's one and done, and if you've done one and done, you need to work on it.

Dr. William Attaway: 12:11

Fascinating. You said 10 minutes a week. I mean, that's within reach of anybody. Anybody can do that. Is this really something people should put on the front burner and say, yeah, okay, we're going to dedicate 10 minutes, 15 minutes a week. Is this something you can do yourself?

Marilyn Jenkins: 12:29

You can. Now we, of course, throw it on steroids and do it, you know, like articles every month and get those out all over the web and all coming back to you. But if you're not going to do anything like that, the littlest thing you can do is, 10 minutes every week, go in and reply to a review. I don't care if it's a negative review. Reply to every single one, right. Make it part of your business process to ask for reviews after you finish working with every single client, right? If you add a video, add a photo. If you have a new product or a new service, or if you've got services listed that you don't have photos to add a photo to it.

Marilyn Jenkins: 13:07

So there's little things you can do and the big thing is that people don't even think about. Is there's a questions and answer section? They're like well, I wouldn't ask myself a question, no, but your potential clients almost all have the same three to seven questions about your service. Why not put a new question and answer every week? That gives you three to seven weeks worth of updates, and every Q&A, every update, tells Google more information of which searches you qualify for.

Dr. William Attaway: 13:36

You know, you challenged me when I heard you talking about this previously, about the reviews, about asking every client for a review, and I had been so lax in this. By lax what I mean is this was really non-existent for me, so I was like, okay, I need to step into this, I need to step up. And it's remarkable People actually read these things. They do, they actually look at the reviews and it helps to drive not just people's decision whether or not they're going to contact you or buy, but it also helps with your reputation online, exactly.

Marilyn Jenkins: 14:12

Is this something?

Dr. William Attaway: 14:13

you help clients with as well.

Marilyn Jenkins: 14:14

I do Absolutely and especially like a one-star review. I'm one of these people I'm going to go to the ones before I read the fives. Right? Nobody walks on water, so I'm okay If a couple of seven right. But I'm going to go to the ones because the ones tells me that either that customer had a bad day or the employee had a bad day. But how did the? How did the business reply to it?

Dr. William Attaway: 14:36

Oh, that's good.

Marilyn Jenkins: 14:37

You know. It tells me what they, how they view their potential new customers Right, are they respectful? Did they try to fix it? Did they say out now this? You never did business with me, so I'm not sure where this is coming from. You know, and that happened. You know. Reply this was a disgruntled employee. Those happen as well, and if they are completely irrelevant, you can report them to Google, and the Google business profile is one section of Google that actually has people that you can reach. Whoa Say it ain't so Exactly, you can actually reach people. That's how important it is to Google that they have a support team behind the Google business profile.

Dr. William Attaway: 15:19

I love that. You know the value that you bring in, not just sharing this information, which you do on shows like this, but also through your book. You know the value that you bring is massive, but what you do for your clients, like you said earlier, it just takes this and supercharges it Exactly. What are some of the things you've seen with clients that have engaged you in this?

Marilyn Jenkins: 15:44

We've seen their obviously their reviews grow because we help them put a process in place to get more reviews. Again, it's important that you ask everyone for a review when you finish doing business with them. Like some, restaurants will have a QR code in their little wallet that the bill comes in. Retail stores will have a QR code at the POS. That the bill comes in. Retail stores will have a QR code at the POS, right, and you know, if you're happy, give us a review, any of those types of things, but have it as part of your process.

Marilyn Jenkins: 16:10

So what we've seen is people grow in the ranking of their website Because what we're doing is we do articles each month and we do press releases every quarter, and when we put those on your website, we also put them on the Google business profile, because it now has a posts section where you can do keyword rich content on your Google business profile, which again tells Google more about who you're relevant to. And then we also do citations to all of those. So what Google sees is when we run like, say, 350 citations a month, it takes a few months for all of those to get indexed. So what Google starts seeing is wait a minute, she's wait, there's another one. There's another one, wait, there's another one. See how relevant Williams Business is now, as it wasn't as relevant three months ago, so it's not an instantaneous growth, but it is wasn't as relevant three months ago, so it's not an instantaneous growth, but it is. I mean we've seen people get 40 to 50% increase in phone calls in the first 60 days.

Dr. William Attaway: 17:08

That's remarkable, and I think it illustrates the power of having somebody who's a professional step into this and help you go farther than you might go on your own and get there so much faster.

Marilyn Jenkins: 17:23

Exactly, and we use human written content on these articles and press releases. We don't use AI. So we have a team, a research team. We'll take specific keywords that you want focused on with the city, perhaps even a neighborhood. So say, you're in your town but you want to focus your business, maybe you do kitchen remodeling and you want to focus on the higher end town, the higher end neighborhood. Well, we simply write an article the keyword rich article that focuses on that neighborhood. Now, when people in the neighborhood start looking for a kitchen, you're going to come up. So it's a nuance of of location and keywords and it's just a growth. It's. It's you know the old saying Mo, better more is better, and that's why you want to do something every day.

Dr. William Attaway: 18:15

That's so good. That's so good, and and building that consistency really does make a difference in the momentum that you're going to achieve. I mean, a friend of mine says this all the time Consistency is the mother of momentum. That's what I'm hearing from you. Just be consistent with this. Just be consistent. Make it a little better, a little better, a little better. Like James Clear talks about atomic habits, right? 1% better, just a little bit better.

Marilyn Jenkins: 18:38

Bill Jackson 1% better every day You're going to be 165% better in the year. Yeah.

Dr. William Attaway: 18:45

I mean I'll take that. Yeah, I would like to be that a year from now. I think that's phenomenal. You add so much value here and it comes from who you are, marilyn. It's the overflow of your own growth, and you help other people to experience this through the services that you provide and the value that you provide for their companies. Mj Media Group needs you to lead at a different level today than it did five years ago, and five years from now, your team is going to need you to lead at yet another level. What are you doing to stay on top of your game and level up with the new leadership skills that you're going to need to lead at the level that your business and your team are going to demand of you?

Marilyn Jenkins: 21:00

Coaching. I always wanted to, you know, it's always been part of my business life is to either through books or attending events or hiring coaches someone that's been, that's ahead of me, um, and learning from other people. I can't do this alone. I'm not one of these people that's going to read 300 books a year, you know, and and especially try to capture all of it. I believe in in the coaching you know coaching programs, masterminds, where you can get ideas from other people and learn from those people, and I also have the door open to my team.

Marilyn Jenkins: 21:38

But when I bring someone in that's an A player, I start seeding that they're going to be part of the leadership team. If I believe that's what they're going to be, and it empowers them to not be afraid to be an active part of the team. But as far as leading, it's just. I don't believe in leading with the cards too close to your chest. Yeah, there's some things I'm never going to share, but I can't build the business. I want to build and do it all and not, you know, be that leader and give them not only responsibility but accountability, and that's the one piece of delegation that I think a lot of people are missing. If you give somebody something to do it, you've got to make them accountable for it, right, so it just it makes and it also empowers them.

Dr. William Attaway: 22:24

Yeah Well, I think your your habit of, of delegating not just responsibility but authority too, you know, and saying hey, I want you to, I want not just responsibility, but authority too, yeah, you know, and saying hey, I want you to take this and do it and I'm giving you the ability to do it. So often I see leaders who are willing to give a responsibility here go do this thing, but I'm not going to give you the authority to figure out exactly how you know or to think is there a?

Dr. William Attaway: 22:49

better way, and why did you do this? You, you delegate both of those things and you hold them accountable. And you're right, that's the secret sauce, right? But by not sharing those things and trying to hold all that for yourself, this is when you become the lid Right on your company's growth, on your team's growth, and people will begin to see themselves as just cogs in a machine, instead of actual 3D human beings who are valued members of your team, and I love how you describe this. You tell them hey, I want this for you. If you see potential, I want this for you, I want you to step into this, but they've got to do it. They get to choose.

Marilyn Jenkins: 23:29

Yeah, I mean I don't want someone feeling like they're, like you said, a cog in the machine that's stuck in that spot. You know, if, if I wanted that I could, I could make a GPT do it. I mean, come on, I want real people that that see a future. And if you know, if we get to a point where you know they don't see a future anymore, they get a better offer, then I have enough communication with my team that they'll come to me.

Dr. William Attaway: 23:53

Yeah.

Marilyn Jenkins: 23:54

You know? Yeah, so it's. You know we're growing this together, but I mean being a leader, just I think mentorship and masterminding with people that are been where I am and are past. It is invaluable as far as what they share. So when someone new comes into the group, I'm out there sharing. You know, we're all just open-handed when it comes to knowledge, so that we all. What is the saying? Rising tides lifts all boats. That's right.

Dr. William Attaway: 24:24

That's exactly right, marilyn. You know if somebody from the outside may look at you and look at your online presence and your company and everything that you're doing and they may say, wow, man, her journey's just been up and to the right. She has never dealt with the stuff I have to deal with. She's never had to deal with the challenges and the problems that I deal with every day. I bet she's just led this charmed journey as a leader. If they were to say that to your face, what would you say?

Marilyn Jenkins: 24:55

I would probably laugh out loud. That's crazy, I mean. No, there's, there's challenges. There's challenges with team, there's challenges with with clients. The challenges, there's all sorts of challenges, but it's how you, you you move past them and how you, how you handle them. You know, one of the things is is reminding yourself about your wins, and I've instituted that with my team for our weekly meeting. You know they all have a wins journal and they they separate it in in personal and business, which. It took me a couple of weeks for them to start telling me personal wins. But you know it's. You just have to remind yourself whenever you're in a in a low point. Um, but everybody has low points. There's never, there's no hockey stick growth, and I was back in before the internet bubble, working with in tech. No, there's no hockey stick. You want it to always be going upwards, but it doesn't stay up all the time.

Dr. William Attaway: 25:49

So good. You're a continual learner and I know that you are constantly reading and listening to a variety of different learning sources. Is there a podcast? Right now that you're listening to that, you think, hey, this is one that's adding a lot of value in my journey.

Marilyn Jenkins: 26:06

Oh my God, I was ready for the question to be books. Well, that's next.

Dr. William Attaway: 26:11

You can start with books if you want to.

Marilyn Jenkins: 26:13

I listen, I really listen to. I enjoy your podcast and Josh Nelson's. Those are two that I listen to a lot and yeah, there's some some women in business podcasts that I enjoy listening to as well, just to get new ideas and that sort of thing as well, just to get new ideas and that sort of thing. Mindset, I find, is most important to me, obviously business growth, but mindset to me is more than anything, because if I can keep my attitude where it needs to be, then what I know and what I've learned will slot into place. It's not a ginormous challenge. Some people make it's. It's not a it's not a ginormous challenge. You know, like some people make it out like it's a horrible thing. No, there's steps to take to make a business run and you know, intuition is a big part of it.

Dr. William Attaway: 27:01

Good. So is there a book, Is there one that, uh, that you think, hey, this one. If you haven't read this, this needs to go near the top of your to read list.

Marilyn Jenkins: 27:12

I'm going to go back to the Breakthrough Code. You and I have had this conversation before. The Breakthrough Code was such a good book Tom McCarthy yes, I keep thinking Jim, but Tom McCarthy, I mean and it's a mindset book, it's a business book, but he takes a totally different process to deliver it and it's a story, but it's a story. We can all find ways to use what he's doing and you don't realize that the underlying stories you're telling yourself, you know the things that are getting in your way and I knew that I had some blocks and and you know, would run into stuff. And that book was really helpful and I think there's four steps in it. There's. It was just really helpful to work past some things and see it. And you know and see things for real. So the breakthrough code is definitely something I've recommended to everyone and how to win friends and influence people. I've probably bought 50 of those over my lifetime and given them away.

Dr. William Attaway: 28:08

Yeah, you know, classic, and classic for a reason. Yeah, truly I want to. I want to look at your journey in maybe a slightly different way. If, if we were to be able to go back and you could talk to Marilyn when Marilyn was 20 years old, given what you know now, what would you love to go back and tell Marilyn?

Marilyn Jenkins: 28:35

Don't question so much, just do it. Follow your intuition and just do it. You know I had, I was surrounded by enough of of the fear you know. Well, you know I came from a family that didn't really have anything and they weren't terribly supportive. Oh well, you know, I came from a family that didn't really have anything and they weren't terribly supportive, and the thing was, oh, it was always like well, what do you think you're doing? You know you, that's not something we do.

Marilyn Jenkins: 29:01

Go get a job. Yeah, you know, and it's just no, no, do it. Do what you're dreaming until you can't, because just think where you'd be by now if you'd actually paid attention to that when you were in your 20s.

Dr. William Attaway: 29:13

Wow, that's a solid piece of advice.

Marilyn Jenkins: 29:16

I wish I was in my 20s again and I could do that Right.

Dr. William Attaway: 29:19

Wouldn't that be great to actually be able to do that. I'd love to tell myself some things. I'll tell you. Yep, exactly, you know, often people are going to leave a conversation like this with one big idea. If you were able to define what you want that one idea to be, that you want people to take away, what would you want that to be?

Marilyn Jenkins: 29:42

I would say just and this is going to sound weird but a project isn't as big a thing, isn't as big as you think it is If you just break it down into steps, right, like you said. You know this Google business profile thing. Oh my God, that's so much to do. I said a lot of stuff, but you don't, you only need to take one at a time. Yeah, so just start. I mean, how do you walk out the door One foot in front of the other?

Dr. William Attaway: 30:07

Hopefully.

Marilyn Jenkins: 30:08

Hopefully.

Dr. William Attaway: 30:11

Yeah, so good, so good. Erla, you've been so generous today in sharing not only of your time but of the wisdom that you have gained so far in your journey, and I'm so grateful for that. And I know people are going to want to stay connected to you and continue to learn from you and learn more about your book. What's the best way for people to do that? Well, to get the book. You can go to learn from you and learn more about your book. What's the best way for people to do that?

Marilyn Jenkins: 30:32

Well, to get the book, you can go to maximizeyourgbpcom, and if you need help with marketing or want to chat about your online presence or an audit or something like that, you can book some time with me at lawmarketingzonecom and I'm always on LinkedIn.

Dr. William Attaway: 30:48

And putting some fantastic content out. I can attest.

Marilyn Jenkins: 30:51

Thank you, Thank you. My team is really really good when it comes to our videos on Facebook and Instagram and the content on LinkedIn. We're really working hard to get the presence out there.

Dr. William Attaway: 31:02

Marilyn, thank you for sharing so much today and for making it available to the rest of us who don't have the expertise you do.

Marilyn Jenkins: 31:10

Thank you so much for your time. It's been a pleasure being here.

Dr. William Attaway: 31:13

Thanks for joining me for this episode today. As we wrap up, I'd love for you to do two things. First, subscribe to this podcast so you don't miss an episode, and if you find value here, I'd love it if you would rate it and review it. That really does make a difference in helping other people to discover this podcast. Second, if you don't have a copy of my newest book, catalytic Leadership, I'd love to put a copy in your hands. If you go to catalyticleadershipbookcom, you can get a copy for free. Just pay the shipping so I can get it to you and we'll get one right out.

Dr. William Attaway: 31:50

My goal is to put this into the hands of as many leaders as possible. This book captures principles that I've learned in 20 plus years of coaching leaders in the entrepreneurial space, in business, government, nonprofits, education and the local church. You can also connect with me on LinkedIn to keep up with what I'm currently learning and thinking about. And if you're ready to take a next step with a coach to help you intentionally grow and thrive as a leader, I'd be honored to help you. Just go to catalyticleadershipnet to book a call with me. Stay tuned for our next episode next week. Until then, as always, leaders choose to be catalytic.

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