Mentorship, Mindset, and Muscle: A Holistic Approach to Leadership, with Josh Parish

What if the secret to effective leadership was as simple as keeping small promises to yourself? This episode of Catalytic Leadership will make you rethink your leadership approach as we chat with our special guest, Josh Parish, CEO of GetUpGang.com. Josh brings his unique viewpoint from a background in baseball, emphasizing the importance of detailed instructions, leading by example, and the role of a positive mindset in achieving goals. 

With an unexpected twist, we also discuss the link between physical strength and leadership. We explore simple activities to maintain bodily strength and share why a step-by-step approach to habit change can be remarkably impactful. But that’s not all, as Josh also opens up about the role of mentors in his life, the delicate art of taking wise counsel, and the challenges of giving too much. Strap in for a deep dive into replenishing your creative well and maintaining your balance.

Whether you’re a seasoned leader or an aspiring one, you'll find his advice invaluable. Don't forget to hit subscribe to Catalytic Leadership for more insightful conversations about the many facets of leadership growth.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

Welcome to Catalytic Leadership, the podcast designed to help leaders intentionally grow and thrive. Here is your host author and leadership and executive coach, dr William Attaway.

Speaker 2: 0:16

Hey, it's William and welcome to today's episode of the Catalytic Leadership podcast. Each week, we tackle a topic related to the field of leadership. My goal is to ensure that you have actionable steps you can take from each episode to grow in your own leadership. Growth doesn't just happen. My goal is to help you become intentional about it. Each week, we spotlight leaders from a variety of fields, organizations and locations. My goal is for you to see that leaders can be catalytic, no matter where they are or what they lead. I draw inspiration from the stories and journeys of these leaders and I hear from many of you that you do too. Let's jump into today's interview. I'm so excited that day to have Josh Parrish on the podcast. Josh is the CEO of GetUpGangcom. He's a personal development advisor, a lifelong student leader and salesman, a 20-year health and fitness coach, and in the last three years he's sold over $35 million in real estate. He is a strategist and a builder of leaders and I'm so excited you're here, josh. Thanks for being on the show.

Speaker 3: 1:29

Hey man, thank you for having me. I feel blessed that we've connected.

Speaker 2: 1:34

Me as well. I would love for you to start by sharing a little bit of your story with our listeners, particularly around your journey and your development as a leader. How did you get started?

Speaker 3: 1:46

The baseball diamond. That was my first area, I would say, of leadership. Now, I started baseball when I was six years old, really and truly. I guess sales and baseball started about the same time for me, because I was selling watermelons at the back of a truck and you'd have to guide people to the sale On the baseball field. Even though I was five and six years old, I was still learning the game. But if you were in tune to the game you'd understand composure and whatnot.

Speaker 3: 2:22

But yeah, and as I aged on the baseball diamond, instead of going from, we're just having fun. Well, now we're leading young men Right. So I just always took it as a role and my coaches always say, josh, you got to have fun, but I always strive to be the crazy man on the field and play my absolute hardest through my body around. And yeah, I wanted to lead by example. And whenever I was in that character, I would notice that my energy would rub off on others and they too would be high energy and throw their bodies around and they would be pumped up. So that was my first experience with leadership. And the baseball diamond is the place to all athletics. For the most part, team sports is a great place to learn leadership.

Speaker 2: 3:17

So, based on your experiences and based on what I read earlier you've had quite a few how would you define leadership?

Speaker 3: 3:27

Well, one, a good leader is going to lead by example. They're not going to ask their people that they're leading. They're not going to ask them to do anything that they're not willing to do themselves or that they haven't already done to infinity. So that's the first part. And then a good leader is going to explain in detail what needs to be done.

Speaker 3: 3:54

I would say Because I've had leaders that would just say go get it done. Like this is what you need to do, go get it done. And it was like my second day on the job and it's like well, I don't even know what I'm doing here. They're like just go get it done. And I understand why people just say go figure it out, because you do need to get your bumps and bruises and things of that nature. But God, no details behind, just go do it. That's a rough way to go about it and I guess I could talk about all the bad leadership items than the good leadership tactics. But yeah, good leaders are going to lead from the front, ask people about their experience and maybe how things can be better, and just give, give details to infinity, just because people need to know what and why they're doing it.

Speaker 2: 4:42

Yeah, I've heard you say that that mindset is the foundation of every achieved goal you and I share that mindset is really the critical foundation block. Why does that matter so much to you? Why does a healthy mindset seem like something you believe every leader is not just a nice to have, but it's a must have?

Speaker 3: 5:04

I firmly believe that your mindset it's like you're cheerleader in the background. Not only is it your commander, but it's your cheerleaders in the background. But if you take off in the race and then you have something dragging you back or you have that belief that you can't do it, well, that's only going to weigh you down. You have to have that wholehearted belief that, even if you don't know exactly what to do, you're going to show up and you're going to do the necessary steps. That you know is going to push you forward, even when there's uncertainty. But if you are diving into the old ways, the things that maybe set you back, whether it's vices or just bad habits, well then you're subconscious it's the ultimate scorekeeper, so you're going to take all fast. And then you're subconscious and be like oh no, no, remember, you don't show up like this consistently. You're this person instead of this person. So, wow, it is a job to get your mindset in order.

Speaker 3: 6:16

But the way to do that is to just keep the promises that you make to yourself, and it's not necessarily these big items on the checklist Now. The big items, they definitely matter, but it's showing up for yourself with the little promises. If you promise that you're going to drink the glass of water before you start the day, if you're going to take the 10-minute walk, if you're going to be in bed by this time, if you're going to brush your teeth twice, make sure you get that second time in. It's just, it all stacks up and whenever you build that rapport with your subconscious like, hey, I said that I'm going to do it, therefore I'm going to do it then you are creating momentum and then the momentum is going to carry, carry, definitely going to carry through the small things, but the bigger things will. You got your, you got yourself conscious on your side. Then once you, once you've actually stacked up the wins so that's good.

Speaker 2: 7:15

So is that what the get up gang is all about?

Speaker 3: 7:18

It's a lot of mindset cloaked in just very, very simple action items, but the methodology behind, or the idea behind the get up gang Now the get up is the burpee renamed. The burpee is nice. Everybody knows what the burpee is. Crossfit is totally demonized. The burpee is punishment and just the world's hardest exercise. And, just like everybody, everybody wants to not do the burpees but the get up. I've renamed it because, well, it needs. It needs rebranding. I like it. There's. There's no excuse in the world why you can't do a get up, that you don't need any equipment. You need very little time. You're moving your body and you need absolutely nothing else to do the get ups. It takes just a few to really feel it. You can transform your body very, very rapidly with the get up and you can do absolutely every single day. But but yes, it's all about just the foundational pillars of transformation. But man, I'm sorry I went off on a tangent. That's good question, but. But so what was the question for Tom? Sorry.

Speaker 2: 8:31

Yeah, no worries. So the get up game. You know you're the CEO of the get up game, so is that what that's all about? Is it about, you know, a healthy mindset that then helps you to achieve goals in other areas?

Speaker 3: 8:41

Yeah, and so it. The first thing you're met with is the jumpstart transformation, the 21 day deal. But it's not tactics and methods. It's based off of principles and it's the most simple action items that derive the most value. So if you, if you, if you do these things like you, prioritize animal proteins, you do your few get ups during the day, you clean out your intestinal tract, you work on your posture it's not about being the most jacked, but you will own your body if you do these things day in and day out and if you keep the promises that you know you make yourself, you go through this little transformational program that I've set up. Oh man, there's no way that your mindset is not going to follow because, well, you've shown up for yourself, but you've cleaned the toxins out of your body. You've ridden, you've ridden them from the intestinal tract, you have enhanced your posture, so you're standing up taller, you're projecting to the world that you're more powerful, you're more confident, but also that opens up your chest cavity so you can fully utilize the expansion of your lungs.

Speaker 3: 9:53

So many folks, they think they have anxiety, but really they just can't catch their breath because they have less than optimal posture. Oh, wow, yeah, and then the prioritizing animal proteins. So there's a whole lot of like red meat. Meat is just nutritionally dense and we need our protein to build muscle, and muscle is the driver of our bodies right, it's the driver of longevity. So, prioritizing animal proteins and then, and then you have your get ups, just a few throughout the day and hit the minimum number of steps. You have really set the foundation of just an awesome self, you know, and then you can. You can progress from there if you'd like, with with higher level tactics and methods, but really and truly you can be in amazing shape if you just follow the four steps.

Speaker 2: 10:47

Wow, that's so practical and I love that. Thanks for sharing that. So would you. Would you consider this to be like one of the best, healthiest, fastest ways to begin to transform your fitness overall?

Speaker 3: 11:02

I'm biased because, yes, I've established the system, but I've talked, I've spoken with several doctors and several other fitness coaches about the four steps and they're like, wow, this truly is the foundation Of positive transformation. And every time that I want to transform myself, like if I've fallen off the wagon, I just look at the four basics and I'm like am I doing this, am I doing this, am I doing this? And? But yes, it is no matter your goal. Physically, world class bodybuilder, olympian, you just want to be a stronger dad. You're going to have I mean, you don't have to do anything but you want to stand taller. You want to breathe better. You want a clean intestinal tract so you can utilize the nutrients and the good foods. You want more protein, animal proteins, because it's nutritionally dense.

Speaker 3: 11:53

And then moving your body, it increases circulation, getting down on the ground and getting back up, older folks they have, they have trouble with independence because, well, they just stopped moving their body and their, their strength to weight to weight ratio it's, it's, it's skewed, because kids, kids are light, right there, they're 500, 100 pounds. And their strength to weight ratio, because they're always run around playing there, it's, it's relatively high. But then as we age, we get injuries and then we get into just different things sedentary lifestyle and therefore we don't have to be as strong as we used to be, especially with all these, you know, jobs that are moving into the tech space and working from home. We don't have to be strong anymore. So just getting down on the ground and getting back up, it signals your body to maintain strength and you have to think of it as a stimulus instead of just like, hey, I'm going to work out, your body will rid itself of what it does not need. So if it does not need strength, then it will get rid of your strength very, very quickly.

Speaker 3: 13:11

So if you can signal to your body just briefly every single day, like, hey, I need, I need to be able to move my body, I need to be able to pick myself up off the ground is so powerful, and you don't have to do a million of them, you can literally do it for like two minutes a day, one minute a day, and you've signaled to your body hey, this is something that I need and therefore I'm going to keep it because, guess, duration and intensity matter, but it's the, the act of showing up and going through it now you don't have to.

Speaker 3: 13:43

You have to whoop yourself every single day, but if you, if you do something just a few times a day, your body's it's like, you know, like the back of your hand. Yeah, and the get-up is symbolic because when we get knocked down, we got, we got to get back up. There's so many, there's so many different things that I've thrown onto the get-up with a. You know the language and the mindset around it. But but yeah, man, I mean it's absolutely the four steps is is the place to start.

Speaker 2: 14:13

I love that. I love the simplicity of it. It's memorable, right? This isn't something you gotta. I gotta make sure I have this, this notebook, all you know, so I can flip through my hundred pages. Now, this is. This is simple. It's something anybody can do.

Speaker 3: 14:25

I love that and I've set it up to where. Now, a lot of coaches there's a lot of great coaches out there and they want to. They want to dazzle you with the detailed programs and, hey, you're gonna hop on this program and then you're gonna be this person. But change is the scariest thing for people, besides public speaking and death, I would say and moving. But when people think about uprooting their life even if their life is, is is like you know, like it could be better it still scares them. So Even if they're like, oh, this is the track that's going to take me to the promised land, I'd much rather my clients insert these pillars into their current lifestyle Just to warm them up to the change, showing them that, hey, I can, I can do these healthier things within my current lifestyle. And then, once these, once they start to see the changes in their bodies from just inserting these things here and there, that's going to create more momentum and then that's going to change the mindset and then we can attack the bad habits.

Speaker 3: 15:35

Far too often people want to change 10 things at one time because they're motivated, and if they can, that's fantastic. But I know that me personally, I'm a simple guy I'm going to have to change one thing at the time for the most part. And yeah, I mean just, and if you can, if you can just focus on one thing at the time and get it down pat, you're going to accelerate so much faster if you, if you just do one thing at the time, then if you try to take on 10 things at once, I think that kind of focus is, or a lack of that kind of focus, is the reason so many people don't achieve their goals.

Speaker 2: 16:10

They're trying to do too many things at once. You can try to do 10 things and get nothing done, or you can focus on one and see movement.

Speaker 3: 16:18

That's the. That's the way it goes is. Once you own this, then you could go get something else. But trying to hold too many eggs in your basket, trying to wear too many hats, it becomes overwhelming. And that's when you backslide to the old ways. Yeah, and maybe even pass the old ways. Maybe you're going two or three levels back when you slide off. So that's good. The old ways are way too comfortable.

Speaker 2: 16:42

It's true, but what do you think holds people back or at least the majority of people back From getting what they really truly want?

Speaker 3: 16:52

One is the stories that they tell themselves hey, I'm this way and I like to do these things. I'm not good at this. That holds them back. And then it's showing up as other people see them. They list other people's stories and therefore, I know it sounds weird. They don't want to let other people down, so they want to continue to show up, like they've always shown up. And I don't know if you've ever had anybody tell you hey, you've changed. Well, for the most part, when people say hey, you've changed, it's not in a positive sense. Even if you are making positive changes in your life, that means to them you are different than what I know of you.

Speaker 3: 17:42

And Listen, it's important to seek wise counsel. It really really is. I think it's said in the bible 16 to 18 times. But you can't. If they're not wise counsel, you don't need to listen to them. And for people it's like the bucket of crabs. You know the? If the crabs trying to make an escape out of a bucket, the other crabs are going to pull them back down. So Very few people. I mean. I hate to say it because I wish people. People have the best intentions at heart and they want the best for everybody else, but they want everybody to stay the same as they know it for the most part.

Speaker 1: 18:20

Hmm.

Speaker 3: 18:21

So it's good, yeah, and they just they don't want changing their lives and they don't want to see you change, because they they need you to show up like this.

Speaker 2: 18:30

You know, it's true, opinions are like noses I mean, everybody's got one Right and it does not mean that they're all created equal. In learning to discern and distinguish between what you need to listen to and what you need to discard Can be a challenge. I mean, sometimes we, we really struggle there. What I often tell people is you have to eat the fish and you have to leave the bones. Right, don't eat the bones, it's not going to help you, right, but you got to be able to determine what's fish and what's bones, and that comes from that healthy mindset that we both know matters so incredibly much so. So, thinking about this growth process like how important is having a mentor, or in the process that you're describing, Well, I'd say that it's extremely important to have mentors in your life.

Speaker 3: 19:22

They might not always be available, but a mentor or a master, they will allow you to leapfrog in a space because if you can get one on your side and they tell you the secrets that they know because every industry, everything, has its own language and then in their space, that top percentile of achievers they have their own language from everyone else in that space. So it just depends on how fast you want to accelerate. But it can be a challenge in time to get a mentor. But I just posted about the master key, and the master key in terms of getting a mentor, or at least getting you know or seeking wise counsel, is asking for people's professional opinions on a matter, because asking someone their professional opinion, you're basically giving them a pass to pass judgment or to give an opinion, and everybody loves to give their opinion right. If you can get them to give you their professional opinion, more than likely, if they're human, which they probably are they're going to level with you, and if you can continue to ask penetrating questions about their opinion, well, you're well on your way to getting a mentor, because they're going to be, like this person's hungry in the space, and especially if you can provide value to them without them asking you to provide value. If you find something that they need, then you can fulfill that without them ever asking. That's how you really really hook a mentor, because one I've had a lot of great mentors in my life Very few people actually ask them their opinion on things and if they do, those people go about it in a completely wrong way.

Speaker 3: 21:18

They just they're like gimme, gimme, gimme and definitely it's got to, you got to replenish the will, maybe even overgive before you ever receive. So me personally, I've always wanted to accelerate as fast as I could, because if I had something in my mind, I wanted to know about it and I wanted to know how the best did it, and I would pay anything that I, within my that was possible, to learn the language, to learn the leverage points within a space. So to me, yes, getting a mentor is extremely important, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 21:58

So how do you replenish the? Well, like you know, is that something that you have to be intentional about, or does that just naturally happen?

Speaker 3: 22:06

Well, I've, I've used the phrase replenish the well for most of my life and, yes, you do need to be intentional about it. It's, it comes naturally to me. At the same time, I still have to think about how am I going to come through for this individual that's pouring into me? So if it's not natural for you to pour into people or overgive, then you're really going to have to focus on it. But, yes, the customization of how you replenish the well matters, because if you're, if you're trying to replenish the well in ways that it doesn't need replenishing, because the well is multifast and if you can replenish the well in a way that it's never been replenished before, oh well, that's.

Speaker 3: 22:56

You've just hit a new level and then you've gone from there you know just your mentor to like you've got, you've got an advocate for you in the space. Now, like they're, they're your buddy, like they're like yeah, so just, you do have to be creative and you have to pay attention to the people that you're with and you're not going to be able to do this for for for hundreds of people at the time. Really, it's, it's it's got to be super intimate and not in a sexual sense, but but yeah, like you're really bonding with the person. So, yeah, replenishing the well, that's that's. That's a standard in my household. You got to do it Like that's just. It just shows appreciation, and I'm always wanting to try to overgive.

Speaker 2: 23:45

Josh, how do you stay on top of your game? Like you know you're, you're a leader of leaders. You build into other leaders to help them get better. How do you stay on top of your own game so that you can do that?

Speaker 3: 24:01

I'm pretty crazy about my word and how I show up. And I'm not. I'm not perfect by any means, very, very far from it but I tell myself, if I say it, then I'm going to do it. That's how I show up and, like I, there is no other option for me.

Speaker 1: 24:21

Like I, it may take a little bit longer.

Speaker 3: 24:24

You know, then, because I overpromised. I try not to overpromise and underdeliver, but if, if I can't do it, then like I've, I'm probably almost dead. So it's just. How do I stay on talking about I don't know? It's just the promises that I make and I'm just. I try to be as true to my word as absolutely possible and it's really just. Again, you're building rapport with yourself and you could never outrun bad rapport within the community. What do they call that? Your, your reputation record, your your reputation.

Speaker 3: 25:05

Your reputation. Yes, my mind's real blank there, but you'll never be able to outrun a bad reputation. You can't outwork a bad reputation and bad news travels 10 times faster than good news travels. So if you start getting the bad rap, people are going to be like, no, don't work with that guy. But if you've left someone with good experience then they might not necessarily refer you right now, but down the road then they're like I know a solid guy that they kept you in the back of their minds. So, yeah, you're building that reputation with yourself, you're building that reputation out in the community and even though I might say some off colored things or do some off colored things, if I say it I'm going to show up. Like I said. I was going to show up because I just reputation is everything.

Speaker 1: 25:55

Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2: 25:58

You're an entrepreneur and so many of the people listening to this show are entrepreneurs. They're entrepreneurs or founders in the agency space. They're business leaders. As an entrepreneur like as you think about your business and where you want to go from here, is there one thing that stands out like one thing that you want the most going forward?

Speaker 3: 26:22

In my business, or what I think the most important for business and entrepreneurs? No, for years for years.

Speaker 2: 26:28

And I ask that personal question because I think it's important for people to understand that this looks different for different people, but every one of us needs to have that North Star, that thing that we're aiming at.

Speaker 3: 26:41

Well, so I'm making the transition from real estate sales into the online coaching space and, even though I've been a coach for the last 20 years, I'm really honing in my message. And then the end user experience for how one would go through and experience my teachings and coaching. So I'm working on it with everything that I have. But, yeah, just really just honing in my message get very, very clear, have clear calls to actions and be able to verbalize and clearly display like how I'm going to provide value to my prospects, to my end users. And I think so many times when it comes to communication, we might try to over communicate things, so we try to squeeze in way too much when we only have just a few seconds to grab someone's attention and display that value. So, yeah, going forward that's what I'm doing is I'm really honing in my message and clarifying the roadmap for my clientele. So, yeah, that's good, that's my steps right now.

Speaker 2: 28:01

What are some of the challenges that you have faced? It's easy for people to listen to a show like this and hear about your journey and your track record and think, oh wow, it must just have been up into the right Like he must have never really had the challenges that I'm having. Can you speak to that? Can you speak to some of the challenges that you faced in the entrepreneurial space?

Speaker 3: 28:20

Oh, absolutely it's that. Number one is the chatter chatter in the back of your mind. You can have the best mindset, but in times of building a business you're gonna have highs and then you're gonna have lows, and then those low times I'm not saying be absurd with how positive you are, but you can beat yourself up and feel unworthy at times. So yeah, I mean, the biggest challenge is always gonna be mindset and you have to be able to embrace discomfort in this entrepreneurial space because business is fizzle out very, very quickly and a lot of times it's because people give up way too soon and listen, I could have spit out money, but everybody has a money problem, like everybody has a money problem. So that's not unique. And mindset problems aren't unique either. But you can.

Speaker 3: 29:25

There's a book, man's Search for Meaning, by Victor Frankel, and he was a survivor of the Holocaust and he chose. When he was in the concentration camps he realized very quickly that he could choose his thoughts. He was the master of his thoughts, even though the worst was going on around him. He was a master of what he was thinking and his experience, even though, like, the absolute worst was happening around him. And I think back about. You know what Victor Frankel was going through. And I'm like, wow, you know, I'm in a three bedroom townhouse that set up for performance and I could go, you know, eat good food and go take a nap if I wanted to. It's not that bad. So, creating those monsters within my head of like, oh my God, if I don't make a sale today, you know, then we're doomed. It's not necessarily like that. Now definitely need to put the pedal to the metal and create more sales and buy more value to the people. But yeah, it's the monsters we create in our heads and then just how we deal with them.

Speaker 2: 30:35

One question that I ask all of my guests is that typically, people who are high performing in their spaces like you are they're continual learners. One way that we continue to learn from other people is by reading, and so I ask is there a book that has made a big difference in your journey? It may be the Frankel book that you've already mentioned. Is there one that you would say, hey, if you can only put one book on your to read list this month, this is the one I would recommend.

Speaker 3: 31:02

Oh man, yeah, the Victor Frankel man search for meaning. That will change. That will change you. You'll cry If you haven't cried in a while and I'm a cryer like I cry, but you're just like wow, this guy, he saw the worst but he chose the high road, even though that people were dropping like flies around him and like he. But his purpose was he said that he was going to have to go tell people what he experienced and what he learned and that's what drove him to survive. So, if you can, if you can keep a positive mindset in that type of situation, that's crazy. And just hear that and then thinking about your problems, it's like wow, like I'm being a wimp right now.

Speaker 3: 31:55

That's good man, Not to minimize anybody's problems, because there's a lot of people have bad problems out there, but in terms of Holocaust concentration camp right, there's very few people that can be on that same playing field.

Speaker 2: 32:11

Well, that's a great perspective. It helps us to gain perspective by thinking wait a minute, like is this really the worst thing that could be happening to me right now? Hang on, what do I have to be grateful for? And this is one of the ways that I coach Clines around mindset is helping them to learn to identify and celebrate their wins. If you can retrain your brain to do that, man, that will change everything in your life over time.

Speaker 3: 32:37

I love that. Yeah, gratitude is a massive accelerator. Giving thanks for what you currently have, but also giving thanks to the lessons from the losses that you've earned in life. Yes, yes, and because a loss isn't a loss if you took a lesson from it.

Speaker 3: 32:56

The losses are some of the best teachers that you'll ever have. It hurts if you're in that time, but if you can take a lesson from it and not repeat the bad habits that maybe led to that loss, then it's actually a huge win. God willing, you have more time on this earth and then if you share the lesson that you learned from that specific circumstance, then I mean, then you're impacting others as well. That's right.

Speaker 2: 33:23

So will say you know, typically people walk away from an episode like this, josh, with one big idea. If you could define that one thing you want people to take away from this, what would you want that to be?

Speaker 3: 33:37

It's really to start listening to yourself, how you're talking to yourself and the stories that you repeat to yourself, because all too often we keep ourselves in a frame because we're repeating these traumatic stories over and over and over and never really coming to a resolution or a lesson learned from those traumatic experiences. So really, just looking at it from a bird's eye view, it might sound crazy to try to talk to yourself in your head or analyze your thoughts, but, yeah, analyze your language, really review the stories that you're telling yourself and then ask yourself hey, what's the end goal here? Why am I choosing to repeat that story? Like, is that serving me right now? And more than likely it's not so. And a method that I have for combating those stories that we repeat to ourselves is you got to break out the journal and listen.

Speaker 3: 34:41

If it's a 10 minute story that you tell yourself or a five minute story, because we get through it pretty quick you need to write.

Speaker 3: 34:48

Break out that journal, slap an hour on the microwave and just write about it in extreme detail for an hour. Just, really, really just get into the every nook and cranny that you can and then you're tired of you're tired of talking about it for that hour and then maybe within that hour, you have key takeaways, or maybe at the end of the hour, like you have to say, ok, this is what I've learned and this is what I'm thankful for, because this, this has taught me this and now I'm a stronger person, more wise person because of it. But you have to, you have to go and you have to face that story and you have to take those, those takeaways from it. Because if that story just keeps spinning in your head, you're just reliving those negative emotions. So you're just, you're just spiraling down, you're drowning in those emotions and and that's and that's really what those stories are doing to you. So just stop reliving the traumas. I know that was a long answer, but but yeah that's good.

Speaker 2: 35:46

That's solid man. I think that's spot on Awesome, Josh, this has been such a great conversation. I know people are going to want to stay connected to you and continue to learn from you. How can?

Speaker 3: 35:57

they do that. Yeah, just go to my website, the Josh Parish dot com. It has all my social media on there and it has a direct link to the get up game community and that's a free community health and fitness community where I've got the the jumpstart challenge. It's got a lot of different nutritional tips and hacks and mindset hacks and just a post on there every single day. We've got neat challenges and it's a fun group. So just go on the Josh Parish dot com and you'll be able to hit the link and go directly to it and you'll be informed and entertained. I think so.

Speaker 2: 36:38

So love that man, I love that. Thank you for for being so, so generous today in sharing from the wisdom and insights that you've gained so far in your journey. Really appreciate that.

Speaker 3: 36:50

Thank you for having me on the show. You've been a great host.

Speaker 2: 36:53

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Speaker 2: 37:29

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